Hello everyone, dear friends. Today I noticed that many people began to be interested in the SMM topic. Some of my readers contact me asking for help. Some ask for help in setting up a VKontakte group, some ask to promote the group.
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So, I want to say right away that I decided not to write posts on Sundays. I gave myself a day off! Still, you need to rest sometime. Do you agree?
So, now we will present to your attention 4 main ways to identify bots in VKontakte groups.
What is it for? Well, at least to answer the question: “Is it necessary to buy advertising here?”
Advertising can be purchased on exchanges such as Prospero, Sociate, Socialtools - this is me, for example. Of course, you can also look at the official VK exchange. But not all groups are on the VK exchange. Therefore, exchanges are still relevant.
Or maybe you even want to buy a group - this will make it all the more important for you to navigate these issues!
So, for experiments, I took one of the top VKontakte groups, which are engaged in the promotion and promotion of groups. Let's see how they do it. And at the same time, let's see how to identify a bad group from a good one.
Method No. 3 – Online users
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The fact is that bots, for the most part, are “online” only when they are performing some kind of paid work for their owner.
Well, for example, you ordered boost offers (bots), the contractor launched the program, and the program logged in under each account, performed an action, logged out, logged in under the next one, and so on.
As you can already understand, the time spent online by bots is extremely short. This means that the ratio of the number of online subscribers to the total number of subscribers must be adequate.
How to remove VK “dogs”
There are several methods for removing bots from a community on a social network. Their main difference lies in the implementation method - manual or automated cleaning. Let's consider each option in detail.
Manual removal of "dogs"
If there are a small number of group members, you can remove all the “dogs” by removing them yourself. To accomplish this you should:
- Open the community page where deletion is planned.
- Below under the avatar, click on the “Manage” line.
- Using the side menu, go to the “Participants” section.
- Scroll through the list and when you find a subscriber with a “dog” on their avatar, click the “Remove from community” link, which is located to the right of the name.
You should scroll to the end of the list and get rid of all inactive users.
Reference. If an accidental exclusion from a group occurs, you can quickly restore it. To do this, just click on the appropriate link that will appear in place of the delete button.
Removal via Olike service
You can clear the list of inactive users thanks to a special service. The procedure will be as follows:
- Follow the link https://olike.ru/.
- Log in via your VKontakte account.
- Using the menu on the left, open the “My Profiles” section. On this page you will need to enable additional features that will allow the program to act on behalf of the user.
- Click the “Connect” button.
- In the pop-up window, allow the application to access your VK account.
- Copy the link that appears in the address bar of your browser.
- Paste the link into a special field on the Olike website, under the “Connect” button.
- Click "Ok". The system will report a successful connection.
- In the menu on the left, click on the item “Order for VKontakte”. From the drop-down list, select the line “Remove dogs from groups.”
- Select a community that needs cleaning.
- Inactive community members will be searched and removed.
Important! To avoid problems, you should not run cleaning in several groups at the same time, using two or more browser tabs.
Method No. 4 – Lack of activity in the group
Well, everything seems to be logical here too. But not everyone pays attention to this. Usually everyone looks at the number of participants. Yes, I’m the same, to be honest.
I look at the group: “Wow, there are 2 million participants, and the price for advertising is only 150 rubles - you have to take it”
. And then you go through this group and everything becomes clear.
So, you can determine the vitality of a group by the number of likes, reposts, etc.
By the way, the sociate exchange has wonderful functionality that shows the social activity of participants. It also shows the “reach” of readers of other advertising posts.
How to find out how many bots are in a group?
There are many reasons when it may be necessary to find out the number of bots in a VKontakte group. For example, you want to order advertising, and therefore you are interested in how attractive this site is. If you are the owner of a community, then you also need to know the number of such accounts, because if there are too many of them, your group may be blocked. In addition, there are cases when ordering community promotion services through special agencies, there is also a need to evaluate this promotion and check it for the number of bots. Therefore, now we will look at methods that will allow us to identify dead accounts in the community.
- The easiest method, if you are the owner of a group, is to go to “community statistics” and in the “views” section pay attention to the number of suspicious accounts.
Statistics of suspicious accounts in the group
However, here you will not be able to see the exact number of dead pages. This indicator allows you to see the approximate minimum percentage of such accounts. That is, if it costs 6%, this means that at least 6 percent of subscribers in the group are bots. But this percentage could be higher.
- Another way to find out the number of bots, even in someone else’s group, is to go to the “participants” section.
Community members section
Next, you will be presented with a complete list of all subscribers. To avoid scrolling through it manually and counting the number of blocked accounts, you can pay attention to the total number of audiences, which is shown at the top of the section. For example, this number is 2516 subscribers. Next, click on the “magnifying glass” (search) icon in the upper right corner.
Detailed list of group members
When you go into a detailed search for group subscribers, you will see at the top a different number of subscribers, which will be less, due to the fact that pages without photos, as well as accounts with dogs, will not be taken into account here. For example, a detailed search shows 2,450 followers. Therefore, subtracting 2450 from 2516, it turns out that there are 66 dead accounts in the group. This method is the simplest and most accurate. But for this it is necessary that in the search settings there is a checkmark under the item “with photo”.
Search for members in a group
- The old version of VKontakte had an application that accurately analyzed the percentage of dead audience in the community. This program was called "search for dead members and subscribers." At this time, such an application does not exist, just as there are no analogues.
Filtering VKontakte group members
Since your group can be blocked for a large number of bots, it is important to monitor the statistics of dead accounts.
If there are more than 20% of such accounts in your community, you need to clean them up. Try not to use fake subscribers, as 90% of such audiences will be bots.
The benefits of bots
Where do bots come from if they only cause harm? This is not the most difficult question if you understand how these soulless digital programs work.
They are created by professionals - programmers commissioned by marketers, content creators and other customers.
While they cause direct harm, sometimes they provide undeniable benefits.
Let's say you are a successful web designer and you have developed and want to offer a course about Adobe Photoshop to a wide audience.
You bought advertising, and you receive a large number of similar questions. Everyone is interested in when classes will start, what kind of computer is needed, and whether it will be possible to obtain a certificate that will allow them to get a job.
Replying to every user's message is not an option. It makes much more sense to develop a script that will engage in dialogue with users without necessarily hiding the fact that it is a computer program.
It can be assigned the function of greeting a potential audience, participating in basic correspondence, working on messages that users send first, or entering into correspondence themselves.
In this post I will not touch upon the development of such services; I just want to bring to your attention the information that in this way they can actually be very useful.
conclusions
- Before buying advertising, analyze the community for promotion.
- On VKontakte, use a filter by city for regional communities or parse target communities of subscribers.
- On Instagram, look for unusual spikes in activity and read comments on posts.
- Twitter, use special tools to find fakes.
- On Facebook, rate users manually.
Interesting articles continuing the topic:
- What a marketer should know about social media scrapers;
- A complete guide to VK statistics;
- Study of user activity on social networks in 2018;
- How to audit an Instagram account, algorithm and nuances of verification.
What are “dogs” in the VK group? How do they affect the state of the community?
As we found out, a dog is a deleted or blocked user. You can find out the number of such subscribers by going to the total number of users. Often, many deleted pages appear due to the use of programs to cheat users. This is a good way to promote your page at first. After all, the more subscribers you have on your public page, the more new ones will be attracted to you.
But later, these fake pages turn into those same dogs, which negatively affects the work of the community. Why? There are several reasons for this:
- The group will be hidden from users in searches and will be classified as unreliable.
- Advertisers check subscribers before collaborating, and the presence of a mass of deleted users will be confusing.
To find out how much such garbage has accumulated in the public, use the program //vk.com/app2732533, in which, after launching, you can scan your subscribers.
Remember, if the number of such accounts is about 10%, then there is nothing terrible and it is not necessary to clean them. Otherwise, you will have to remove the “dogs” manually or using special programs.
"Dogs" VKontakte. Who are they and how do they make money?
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Hello. Straight to the point. On VKontakte there is such a thing as “dogs”.
For those who don’t know, this is an icon instead of the avatar of a user who has been blocked by social media. net. Usually these are one-time accounts of bots, fakes, or overzealous users who perform too many identical actions in a row in a short period of time.
Sometimes they even freeze the accounts of users with a sharp increase in traffic to their page if, for example, the author published some interesting announcement of his material, or product, or promotion with discounts.
Real users have the opportunity to unblock their account within a day, but bots or fakes that have done their job simply abandon such accounts. It is usually the owners of groups who have gained subscribers who suffer from this, because due to the presence of these same dogs, the community cannot get to the top of the search even with a much larger number of participants than its competitors, since social. the VK network does not take dogs into account as real people. Advertisers and exchanges that place advertisements in groups naturally also pay attention to this; it is not beneficial for anyone to pay money for donut holes.
Therefore, if a community runs some kind of business or makes money from advertising, and there are about 70% of them, the very fact of having these same dogs directly affects their income.
Of course, you can clean groups with the VK function, but this is suitable for small communities, and where there are tens or hundreds of thousands of subscribers, deleting dogs becomes problematic, since they need to be replaced by someone, otherwise VK may block the group for a sharp reduction in the number.
We will make money by solving this problem. I think that this method of earning money will be of interest to many, firstly, because you can quickly understand the scheme by studying the video tutorial in less than one day, and secondly, investments will be required mainly from the customer at your minimum cost.
However, not all communities are suitable for this. And not every owner will immediately agree to your terms. You need to work carefully, so the manual provides a proven search technology based on certain criteria for the relevant groups, publics and their owners, who will be our customers. It also explains the scheme of interaction between several services to automate routine actions, so that you spend a couple of hours a day checking and adjusting the work mechanism itself.
You can organize a full-fledged business with this, working as a team or hiring assistants. Competition in this case is hardly possible; there are tens or even hundreds of thousands of VKontakte groups.
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Thank you for your attention. Good luck to all!
How to determine cheating on VKontakte
There are many pages on VKontakte with fake subscribers. Even commercial communities often buy them: some SMMers think that a large number of subscribers will increase trust in the company.
Before checking for cheating, determine the number of blocked participants. These are not necessarily bots - sometimes users are hacked, and the administration of the social network blocks such pages. Look at the page's follower count and then go to the Members tab. The number here is smaller, and the difference between these indicators is the number of blocked participants.
Analyze your community subscribers. For regional communities, select a filter by city. In a community with live members, the majority of members should be from the same city. A large percentage of subscribers from Voronezh in a pizzeria group from Novosibirsk would arouse suspicion.
We filtered the participants by city, the number changed to only 1,300 people. It looks like the subscribers are real.
See what other pages members are subscribed to. Offers are not created separately for each group, so the same accounts turn out to be members of different pages that bought subscribers. To check for bots, use any parser. Even a free tool will do. Section "Similar Communities".
How to recognize a bot on VK - what exactly does it mean?
Let's first define what we're talking about.
A bot is a robot that performs certain actions.
That is, in simple words, this is a soulless program that will not buy your products, will not recommend you to its friends, since it is simply a product of the programmer’s thoughts and nothing more.
By the term “bot” in this post I mean the following:
● Fake subscribers of your page, group or public, including friends who joined you a long time ago;
● Fake conversation partner when you contact support.
Both the first and second cases are undesirable for VK users, so you need to learn to identify them. And what to do next - everyone decides depending on their needs.
Definition of cheats on Instagram
Before the advent of algorithmic feeds, you could navigate by reach and activity. Now even accounts with live followers can have low reach and ER. By the way, this is why you don’t need to focus on the number of subscribers when buying advertising. Instead, evaluate audience activity and the content of comments.
You can detect cheating using Popsters (the service supports 10 popular social networks). Load the account you are interested in and check if there are any posts with a sharp increase in likes or comments.
Jumps in activity do not always mean boost: perhaps the post was included in the recommendations and therefore received more coverage. Read the comments carefully: are they written by living people? What is their length and content? If you are still in doubt, ask the blogger for statistics specifically for this post to assess the reach. It's much more difficult to screw it up.
